Joan FOLIOT (c. 1282-bef1324)

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Joan FOLIOT was born c. 1282 in Gressenhall, Norfolk, England. She died bef 23 Jun 1324 in Gressenhall & Weasenham, Norfolk, England. She was buried in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England. She married Alphonse DE VERE.

Jane/Joan de Foliot's father is Sir Jordan, per D. Richardson:

Complete Peerage Addition: Joan Foliot, wife of Sir Alphonse de Vere

Douglas Richardson

Dear Newsgroup ~

Complete Peerage 10 (1945): 222 (sub Oxford), footnote a, gives a good account of the life of Sir Alphonse de Vere, of Great Hormead, Hertfordshire (died 1328). The editor indicates that Leland, Itinerary, ed. by Smith, states that his wife was Joan, daughter of Sir Richard Foliot, "but no proof has been found of this."

Actually there is additional evidence of Sir Alphonse's wife's identity. The 1563/4 Visitation of Yorkshire gives the following information:

"Sir Alphonso de Vere Erl of Oxford maryed = Jone doughter of ....Follyot." [Reference: H.S.P. 16 (1881): 227 (1563/4 Vis. Yorkshire) (Nevil pedigree)].

This confirms that Sir Alphonse's wife was named Joan Foliot, but leaves her parentage unidentified.

John Ravilious' account of the Foliot family provided below indicates that the manor of Cowesby, Yorkshire was held in 1282 by Sir Jordan Foliot, 1st Lord Foliot (died 1299). Complete Peerage 5 (1926): 538-540 (sub Foliot) indicates that Sir Jordan Foliot earlier inherited Cowesby, Yorkshire from his maternal uncle, Sir Robert de Stuteville.

My own research indicates that by 1316, Cowesby, Yorkshire had passed to Sir Alphonse de Vere [Reference: Feudal Aids, 6 (1920): 175]. Likewise, I find that in 1324, Sir Alphonse de Vere presented to the church of Cowesby, Yorkshire as its patron [Reference: R.M.T. Hill, Register of William Melton Archbishop of York, 1 (Canterbury & York Soc. 70) (1977): 129]. I presume Sir Alphonse de Vere had Cowesby, Yorkshire in marriage with his wife, Joan, who chronologically would fit to be a daughter of Sir Jordan Foliot. Sir Alphonse and Joan were evidently married before 1312 (date of birth of their son, John de Vere, later 7th Earl of Oxford).

In an earlier post dated August 4, 2002, I discussed the evidence that Sir Alphonse de Vere and his wife, Joan Foliot, were the parents of Margery de Vere, wife of Sir Maurice de Berkeley, of Uley, Gloucestershire. Margery and Maurice were married by papal dispensation dated 1331, they being related in the 4th degree of kindred, evidently by common descent from the Zouche family. The given name, Margery, was presumably bestowed on Sir Alphonse de Vere's daughter in honor of his wife's mother, Margery (de Newmarch) Foliot.

Sir Alphonse de Vere's wife, Joan Foliot, possesses many royal lines, the best one being through Joan's maternal grandmother, Elizabeth (or Isabel) de Mowbray, whose own grandmother, Bertha de Ferrers, is a descendant of King Henry I of England. For Bertha de Ferrers' parentage, see my post in the newsgroup archives dated 25 June 2000.

I wish to thank John Ravilious for his helpful input on this post.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Sir Alphonse DE VERE, son of Robert DE VERE 5th Earl of Oxford 5th Earl of Oxford (1220-1296) and Lady Alice SANFORD Countess of Oxford Countess of Oxford (c. 1230-1312), was born bef 1262 in Oxford, Oxfordshire, England. He died bef 20 Dec 1328 in Oxford. He was buried in 1328 in St Albans. He and Joan FOLIOT had the following children: